{"id":6156,"date":"2019-10-07T08:13:03","date_gmt":"2019-10-07T06:13:03","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.dafyomi4women.org\/daf\/?p=6156"},"modified":"2019-10-07T08:31:03","modified_gmt":"2019-10-07T06:31:03","slug":"meila-20-%d7%9e%d7%a2%d7%99%d7%9c%d7%94-%d7%9b","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.dafyomi4women.org\/daf\/2019\/10\/meila-20-%d7%9e%d7%a2%d7%99%d7%9c%d7%94-%d7%9b\/","title":{"rendered":"Meila 20 \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 \u05db"},"content":{"rendered":"<p dir=\"rtl\" style=\"text-align: right;\">\u05de\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 \u05d3\u05d4\u05d5\u05e6\u05d0\u05d4? \u05d0\u05dd \u05d1\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05de\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4? \u05dc\u05d0 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05e2\u05dc \u05de\u05e2\u05d9\u05dc\u05d4 \u05d1\u05de\u05d7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2 \u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05df \u05e9\u05dc \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05e9 \u05d1\u05ea\u05d5\u05da \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d7\u05d9\u05d9\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05db\u05d9 \u05ea\u05dc\u05e9\u05d5 \u05d5\u05dc\u05d1\u05e1\u05d5\u05e3 \u05d7\u05d9\u05d1\u05e8\u05d5 \u05e0\u05d7\u05e9\u05d1 \u05db\u05ea\u05dc\u05d5\u05e9. \u05d4\u05d0\u05dd \u05d6\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc \u05e2\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d6\u05e8\u05d4 (\u05d2\u05dd \u05d1\u05e2\u05d1\u05d5\u05d3\u05d4 \u05d6\u05e8\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5 \u05e0\u05d7\u05e9\u05d1 \u05d0\u05dc\u05d9\u05dc \u05d0\u05dd \u05de\u05d7\u05d5\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05e7\u05e8\u05e7\u05e2)? \u05d0\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05e2\u05d5\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5, \u05d1\u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05de\u05e2\u05dc \u05d0\u05d1\u05dc \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e2\u05e9\u05d4 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5, \u05d4\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05de\u05e2\u05dc. \u05d4\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05de\u05d1\u05d9\u05d0\u05d4 \u05de\u05e7\u05e8\u05d4 \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05e0\u05ea\u05df \u05db\u05d1\u05d3 \u05d1\u05de\u05e7\u05d5\u05dd \u05d1\u05e9\u05e8 \u05d5\u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05de\u05e2\u05dc. \u05d4\u05d2\u05de\u05e8\u05d0 \u05de\u05e7\u05e9\u05e8\u05ea \u05d0\u05ea \u05d6\u05d4 \u05dc\u05de\u05d7\u05dc\u05d5\u05e7\u05ea \u05d1\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05d4 \u05d1\u05e0\u05d3\u05e8\u05d9\u05dd \u05dc\u05d2\u05d1\u05d9 \u05d4\u05e0\u05d5\u05d3\u05e8 \u05de\u05df \u05d4\u05d9\u05e8\u05e7 \u05d0\u05dd \u05de\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8 \u05d1\u05d3\u05dc\u05d5\u05e2\u05d9\u05df. \u05d0\u05dd \u05d6\u05d4 \u05de\u05e9\u05d4\u05d5 \u05e9\u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05d4\u05d9\u05d4 \u05d7\u05d5\u05d6\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d1\u05e2\u05dc \u05d4\u05d1\u05d9\u05ea \u05d5\u05e9\u05d5\u05d0\u05dc \u05e2\u05dc\u05d9\u05d5, \u05d4\u05d0\u05dd \u05d6\u05d4 \u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05e8 \u05e9\u05d6\u05d4 \u05e0\u05d7\u05e9\u05d1 \u05e9\u05e0\u05d9 \u05de\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05d5\u05e0\u05d9\u05dd \u05d0\u05d5 \u05d3\u05d5\u05d5\u05e7\u05d0 \u05dc\u05d4\u05e4\u05da? \u05d0\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7 \u05de\u05d5\u05e1\u05d9\u05e3 \u05e2\u05dc \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7\u05d5\u05ea\u05d5, \u05d4\u05d0\u05dd \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05db\u05d1\u05e8 \u05dc\u05d0 \u05e0\u05d7\u05e9\u05d1 \u05e9\u05dc\u05d9\u05d7? \u05d4\u05d0\u05dd \u05d0\u05e4\u05e9\u05e8 \u05dc\u05de\u05e6\u05d5\u05d0 \u05ea\u05e9\u05d5\u05d1\u05d4 \u05dc\u05e9\u05d0\u05dc\u05d4 \u05d4\u05d6\u05d0\u05ea \u05de\u05de\u05e9\u05e0\u05ea\u05d9\u05e0\u05d5?<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\" style=\"text-align: left;\">At what stage does one become obligated for meila of hotza &#8211; taking it out of the property of hekdesh and turning it into non sacred property. One is not obligated in meila for items attached to the ground but a stone in a house is considered detached because an item that is detached and then reattached is considered detached. Would this be the same for idol worship (that is also not forbidden if it is attached to the ground)? If a messenger does what the ownder asks, the ownder is responsible for misuse. But if the messenger doesn&#8217;t do what the owner said, the messenger is responsible. The mishna brings a case where the messenger gave guest liver instead of meat &#8211; the messenger is responsible. The gemara connects this to a debate in the mishna in Nedarim where one swears not to eat vegetables &#8211; can one eat pumpkin? If it is an item that if the messenger couldn&#8217;t find it in a store and would go back to ask the owner if one could purchse it, does that mean it is a different category or maybe that shows it is within the same category? If a messenger adds something, does that mean he is still considered a messenger (and didn&#8217;t defy the owner)? 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